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I was in my local wood shop and saw a carriage makers rabbit plane. He sells old planes on consignment. I thought about getting it but since I know nothing about the maker , I left it there. I think the name is JW. The biggest thing is it has a screw clamp instead of a cam clamp. And I think most of if not all planes with a screw clamp, are made in west Germany. Am I right or wrong, and has anyone heard of these planes?
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I can't help.
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Just remembered. Millers Falls made a model 8900 (technically three types of them) that had a screw cap. They were weird. The trigger adjust ones just boggle my mind.

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Thanks Glen those pictures look some what like that carriage makers rabbit plane. It's just the letters on the front that has now got me baffled. Miller falls may have made this for a small company. That would then make sense. I'm running up to Lowe's tomorrow , so I'm going back for a another look. I may be bring it home just because it now has me really interested in it. It may just end up a shelve plane but it would be interesting if nothing else. If I bring it home I'll take a few pictures just to see what you guys can see in it. and educate me.
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At least get some pictures
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I'll at least do that Don, if nothing else it would add to my education.
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Well do I feel like an idiot. That's what happens when you get old. I went back and looked at that plane. And the letters that I thought was jw was pm. It seem that I was holding it by the rear tote and looking down on the pm and my old eye saw jw. But any way it is a paramo #10 made in Sheffield England. It has replaceable blades and he had 4 box's of them. So just for giggles I stroped one of the blades and took it in the back where the wood shop is and we tried it out on a piece of oak. I was surprised as to how fine the cuts it took. It also has a removable fence that clamps on the side of the plane. So you can clamp it on either side. So what the hay I bought it as a novelty plane and will put it on the shelf in my shop along with a few other novelty tools I have. I'm sure you guys are laughing you heads off as I did at my self. Oh I almost forgot , it had the box and tell instruction sheet with it and manufacturers date 1924.
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I would love to see some snaps.
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Ok Paul here are a few. In some ways it is interesting. I guess because I've always been interested in how things are made. I  think that's why I got it, its different. The leaver behind the adjuster is for opening and closing the blade clamp. And this is one of the older ones because it has a brass thumb wheel instead of the later nickel silver.

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this photo shows were and how the blade sits and is clamped into the plane. 

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with the fence.

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sorry I put the fence up side down. the two bosses are suppose to be sitting on the sole which leaves a space for the blade.  

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fence by its self.

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That is an odd looking duck
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Yea Don it is. I think thats one of the reasons I just went a head and bought it. Stanley made one like it, which was the RB10 I think. From what I was able to find about it, was stanley saw it and was not going to be out done. So they made one as well. Neither lasted long. I did find a forum in England that was named after this plane, but I don't know if it is active or not. So their must have been some interest in them at some point in time. But it will sit on the shelf as a novelty but I may take it down once in a while and use it. heck I have 16 blades for it and they fit my stanley #82 scraper, they are a little short. The #82 is 3" and these blades are just 2". But they would work in a pinch.
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Yup, that's odd, but it's cool. I still don't own a carriage maker's rabbet.

I only meant to show that MF at least also made a plane with a screw cap like that. To my knowledge, they never made a bench plane sized rabbet. If they made a prototype, I'd bet it went back into the furnace.
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Glen the fence will reach completely a crossed the sole so any size rabbit can be cut. An article I found in an old wood magazine, the write said it is to light for a good plane but for what I can tell , it's about the same weight as a stanley #3. I have to weight it to see just how much it weights. But I think I will give it a try on some large tenens I am making on the end of a 2x4. I like to cut them a little full and plane them to size.
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