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TomiRosso
I am little bit curious of age of Ohio Tool planes. When they started to make metal planes and which is older and which newer.

I bought this kind of no 4.

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Body have 04 at front. No other markings at body.

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Tapered, laminated iron with globe-logo.

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Body and frog looked like this.

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Is that one which have patend date casted older or newer? Newer I ques?

Another thing what I thought. Don was mentioned at article that Columbus factory was washed away at 1913. New was build in Charleston. Was Ohio used that Columbus marked globe logo till the end or is there some irons stamped Charleston? I am little bit curious some age-estimation when this plane was made. 1920 they stopped, but when metallic plane making was started?
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timetestedtools
You can look up the patent date on DATAMP.org. that will give one clue. I haven't really dug into the Ohio dating, but it's something that needs to be done. There is information around, nobody had put it together yet that I've seen.
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TomiRosso
Yeah, I looked those and there are three patents on that day August-20-1907. Two are considering plane handles and one frog seating. But was there many frog designs at that time? So maybe that made before that date. Or how long they normally casted those patent dates on planes? Could it be the lastest ones too?

Edit: Okei, there is another frog patent from March-26-1912, which is some Bed Rock clone, but it said that this is used only Ohio Tool #228 plane.
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TomiRosso
Little bit searching from net. I looked Popular Mechanics adds at start of 1900. This came up.

All adds had globe logo at center says OHIO. Frist add I found at this point was at issue December 1906. Probably it have been used before. I could not find add without globe logo.

At March 1914 was that same logo, but at May 1914 it was changed a little bit. Columbus was replaced at Charleston. I first looked that it was same logo, but at closer look I noticed it is not.

Have you seen that Charleston globe at real planes?

Also they were advertaisin "specially constructed extra heavy cutters prevent chattering and trembling" at issues 1907 and 1912. So I think tapered and laminated irons are been used. Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_0060.PNG, Views: 16, Size: 79.94 KB Click image for larger version - Name: IMG_0061.PNG, Views: 14, Size: 78.68 KB
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timetestedtools
This is great stuff. Where did you find the popular mechanics adds?
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TomiRosso
Google gives sometimes those books.google.com pages. There are some issues. First time I noticed those, when I was looking information about Irwin expansive bit. This time I just search "Ohio Tool Co" and after some pages of search results, there was link. And you can search in Google books at those words only at popular mechanics. No links to other pages at messing around your search.
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timetestedtools
All of the Ohio Planes I own have the Globe with Auburn NY and Columbus Ohio. I can't find evidence of a Globe with Charleston VA. Anybody else have one?
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Glen
I don't, but I do have a 5C size plane branded for RT hardware that has that same enormous iron. A beast, that thing is. If there is anything in question about the castings of the frog or related, I am sure it will match the Ohio branded plane. As for the main body casting, probably only the frog seat will be of any use.

I am willing to bet my plane was made well after the move, but I have nothing to show for it.

My thinking for offering this up is a suggestion to perhaps look for other changes to the planes so that they might be identified in a way other than the cutter logo. As for Charleston, I have no idea.

But that plane is a nice bit of iron, I can tell y'all that much for sure!
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TomiRosso
Yes, you are right. Iron logo does not tell much.

It's interesting, or I am saying I think it's interesting, that Ohio planes seemed to be more expensive than Stanleys.

I can't be 100% sure, but it was said that this was at 1912 trade catalog.

So for example No 4 Bailey was 2.40$, same size Bed Rock 2.75$ and Ohio 04 3.25$.

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And was this said to be from 1910......

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timetestedtools
I've started putting together a timeline. I probably should publish it as a draft so you guys can help. I'll do that when I get to a computer.
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timetestedtools
http://www.timetestedtools.net/2017/02/09/my-notes-on-ohio-tools-timeline-draft-type-study/
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ajg681
Anyone have parts for an 04 Ohio plane? I have a later model that I purchased with that had a Stanley iron in it. I paid so little for it, that I honestly was only buying the extra chipbreaker and iron. The front tote screw is missing, and there is a little hairline crack in the mouth. If I could get my hands on a tote screw and a correct tapered iron for cheap, I may try it. Otherwise, it might be on the market as a parts plane. I really don't need another smoothing plane, but it is a really nice looking tool that seems like it would be a good worker with the correct iron. 
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corelz125
Do you have any pics of the parts you need I just got a box that had some ohio tool pieces.
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ajg681
I don't know what thread size the short front tote screw would be, but the main thing I would be interested in is the proper tapered cutter. I don't know for sure which logo the iron should have, but any 2" wide tapered iron marked Ohio/Auburn/Thistle would be fine with me. The issue with a regular iron is that the mouth is wide to accommodate the original iron/chipbreaker. Because this plane has other issues, I am looking for very cheap and don't honestly care if it is the correct type. Do you have any tapered irons for a No. 4/5?

When I am home I can snap a picture of the plane as a reference for anyone who might know about these. 


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corelz125
Only have one ohio tool iron and chip breaker but it's about 2 1/2" wide. 
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