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I am a bit jacked about this one. I need to do some more research, but I am almost positive this is a first generation Justin Traut patent mitre box, from the 1870s to mid 1880s. You are probably looking at the model box that really was the forerunner to the later Stanley steel mechanical mitre boxes. It is my understanding that the first generation Traut boxes had bronze legs. This box has 1 bronze leg casting, on the right. The other leg casting is steel, and has mismatched screws. I think it is reasonable to assume it is a replacement. The box is in decent shape, missing a couple of screws that hold the guide posts caps in place. And one guide has a small chip out of it. Of note, there are green paint traces on it. That may be a clue as to original color, or it might just mean someone repainted it in the last 130 some odd years. The swingarm moves and lockas well. No breaks or cracks in the frame or swingarm that I can discern.

The saw, a 4" x 24" Disston and Sons has a faint etch, and appears to be a No. 4, rather than a designated mitre box saw. I believe the saw to be a bit later vintage than the box.

When time allows, I will do a more complete post on it. I believe, if you are into mitre box evolution, these bronze legged Trauts are fairly important boxes. Of course, the first steel Langdons predate Traut's patent by about ten years.

The thumb lever, for depressing the indent pin, appears to be bronze as well.

The picture of the etch is not the etch on this saw plate. But it is the same vintage etch that this saw has, albiet much fainter.

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There's an interesting one... Unicorn?
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Huh???? Unicorn?
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Jon, it does appear to be a first generation Traut. The plunger is in fact bronze, the fact that you have a bronze foot points toward a first generation unless the bronze is a replacement. I did notice something quirky looking at your pics. I went and checked my two and found this.
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The two guides on the left are from the better of the two I have. What I noticed was the groove on the lower part of the roller guides. I wonder what it was all about On the set on the left only one of them has a groove! Any thoughts?

Also thought you might like this. This is the deck from one of the boxes, it has traces of the original label.
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Great find and looking forward to your detailed observations.  Oh yea, both of mine show traces of green.


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I have no idea what is going on with those lower grooves. Earlier, I was trying to ponder on their purpose, and couldn't find one. Perhaps they were a production mistake, that was later remedied. There really is no apparent reason for them.
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Just researched the patent, the grooves are not a production mistake, they are mentioned in the patent docs. They allow for a regular tapered saw. 
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Huh???? Unicorn?


Oh, come on...

Fictional creature thought to exist only in imagination. When applied to tools it normally means that one thing you're pretty sure you won't see again in your lifetime.
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But, but Two unicorns?


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Truly magical, they fart rainbow rust.

You have one, too?
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I had a girlfriend who often made a similiar claim. The amazing thing, what I really didn't expect, is that rainbow dust smells exactly like...well....a fart.
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Actually Glenn, I have two!

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We digress. 3 rainbow unicorns. I had thought those to be pretty darn uncommon.
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